Befriending the Unknown

Join us for the award-winning Mystics Today Season 2, Episode 2

In this special episode, Sounds True founder Tami Simon delves into an intimate conversation with Ani Pema on how to lean into our discomfort, grow our capacity to be with uncertainty, and find ease in our ever-changing world.

Mystics Today Watch Party Replay

In this episode of Mystics Today, Pema Chödrön teaches us that the way to become more at ease in our rapidly changing world is to lean into that which makes you feel uncomfortable, and to grow your capacity to be with uncertainty. She explains how we can all learn to befriend the unknown.


October 4th at 8pm ET | 5pm PT


At 87, having shared her wisdom for more than four decades, Pema is doing fewer interviews these days. So, we are grateful for the opportunity we had, to sit down with her recently. 

Join Mystics Today host and Sounds True founder Tami Simon for the live premiere and watch party of Mystics Today Season 2, Episode 2—a rare and touching moment with Pema Chödrön, only on Sounds True One.

Pema Chödrön

Born in 1936 as Deirdre Blomfield-Brown in NYC, Pema Chödrön is a world-renowned Buddhist nun who has become one of the most influential figures in Western Buddhism. Her studies under spiritual guides Lama Chime Rinpoche and Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche transformed her path, receiving full bhikkhuni ordination in Hong Kong in 1981.

She later served as the director of Karma Dzong in Boulder, CO and led Gampo Abbey in Nova Scotia. She founded The Pema Chödrön Foundation, dedicated to promoting Tibetan Buddhist monasticism in the West. Her books, including When Things Fall Apart, have enlightened and comforted millions globally.

Tami Simon, Founder of Sounds True

Tami Simon is the founder of Sounds True, North America’s leading publisher of spoken-word spiritual teachings. Over its 38-year history, Sounds True has grown into a multimedia publisher that has produced over 3,000 titles and has been included twice in the Inc. 500 list of the fastest-growing companies. Tami hosts the popular Sounds True podcast Insights at the Edge, which has been downloaded more than 20 million times.

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